The Iranian Talmud: Reading the Bavli in Its Sasanian Context (Divinations: Rereading Late Ancient Religion)

It is not often that one finds an academic book to be so very readable. This book flows. The interactions between the Jews and the Sassanian milieu they found themselves in has been researched in Hebrew but there is a lack of material in English. Dr. Secunda is filling a gap. Without understanding the Zoroastrian and Pahlavi environment in which the Babylonian Talmud came to be, one cannot fully appreciate it. Dr. Secunda builds nicely on the brilliant work Dr. Rabbi Elman. Look forward to reading more of Dr. Secunda's original research.

Excellent read. An interesting discussion of the era of the Talmud and how it relates and is effected by the religions and people of the time.

This book has a major issue which ought to be apparent to anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of Hebrew. Hebrew is written from right to left, opposite to how English is written from left to right... But in the Kindle text, Hebrew is incorrectly written as if it were English - left to right. It's a serious flaw in an otherwise fascinating book, and I'm unwilling to spend money on a book with such a sports bit obvious error. What else might be wrong? You can see the problem in the Kindle sample text.

Fascinating look into Iranian context of the Talmud. Secunda's prose is clear, insightful and candid. Highly recommended for all Talmud and Iranian historians alike.

In November, the Taiwanese embassy in Japan detailed a number of tips for Taiwanese citizen’s s visiting Japan. These include minor items like not putting chopsticks in the serving bowl, and more significant ones like stopping for pedestrians at crosswalks. Japanese society is a distinctive society with strict rules that are not always obvious to visitors. Knowing these rules can make a significant difference.Similarly, for those who study the Talmud, there are myriad events detailed, whose context may not be always obvious to the reader. Understanding those details and nuances can make a significant difference in understanding the reading of a specific Talmudic passage.In The Iranian Talmud: Reading the Bavli in Its Sasanian Context, Dr. Shai Secunda of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has written a fascinating monograph that attempts to connect some features of the Babylonian Talmud, or Bavli, to aspects of Sasanian culture.Secunda builds on the notable work of Professor Yaakov Elman of Yeshiva University, who produced a series of studies that considered the impact of Persian culture on the Bavli. Elman created the scholarly field known as Talmudo-Iranica, which seeks to understand the Babylonian Talmud in its Middle-Persian context.Secunda’s book details the relationship between Zoroastrian texts and the Bavli, and the interaction between the Zoroastrians and Jews in the Sasanian empire. It’s unclear exactly just how much interaction there was between the Zoroastrian priests and Babylonian rabbis; but the book provides a number of arguments to show that it was not an insignificant amount.As to the Sasanian dynasty which the book is about, it existed from about 225 CE to 650 CE in Persian speaking Mesopotamia, where the main religion was Zoroastrianism.Secunda writes that by understanding the Bavli in an Iranian context, the Talmudist is better able to understand the Bavli. He writes that there are a few hundred Iranian-- usually Middle Persian-loanwords (a word borrowed from a donor language and incorporated into a recipient language without translation) in Babylonian Jewish Aramaic. This is a small amount compared to the amount of Greek and Latin terms. But by knowing when these Iranian words occur, the serious reader of the Talmud is better able to have a more accurate understanding of those topics in the Bavli.In addition, he quotes a number of Talmudic passages, and provides an added Sasanian context, which can change the dynamic of the debate or story at hand.Besides the language, another focal point of the book is the Zoroastrian religion, which was the main denomination in the area at the time. By understanding the Zoroastrian culture and the interaction between the Jews and Zoroastrians in various matters, the reader is better able to understand the deeper meaning of certain Talmudic passages.Secunda quotes a Talmudic passage that stumped scholars Jacob Neusner and Albert de Jong. He then writes that had they better understood the Zoroastrian culture, they would have been better positioned to unravel the meaning of the Talmudic story and appreciate the intercultural dynamics that it reflected.Secunda goes so far to write that not only did Neusner and de Jong not understand the full context, but boldly, and somewhat incredibly, that had Rashi, the great medieval French commentator, better understood the context of the Talmudic passage, he may have provided an answer that did not seem to have been forced.Secunda readily admits that the material and textual remains that are available for reconstructing Jewish and Zoroastrian life in Sasanian Iran are; quantitatively speaking - rather meager. That creates a challenge when looking to gain a broader and deeper understanding of the interactions between the cultures.It should be noted that for those that don’t have a background or interest in Talmudo-Iranica, it is not as if their study of the Talmud will be significantly obstructed. Rather, knowing; -or having an appreciation for the Talmudo-Iranica nuances will augment their Talmudic studies.The book is a brief 150 page text, with 60 pages of footnotes and references. Secunda does a superb job of building on Elman’s Talmudo-Iranica. Anyone who studies the Bavli and wants to understand the bigger picture of the text and context will certainly find The Iranian Talmud: Reading the Bavli in Its Sasanian Context an interesting and invaluable reference.

At the time the Babylonian Talmud was written, Babylon and environs was part of an Iranian-based empire (the Sassanian Empire). This book suggests that the Talmud should be read in its Iranian context. Secunda admits that the relevant "material and textual remains... are, quantitatively speaking, rather meager." Nevertheless, he suggests that additional research would be useful, and that even today some Iranian texts can help clarify the Talmud or its context.For example, one puzzling passages criticizes Jews who learn from magi (Zoroastarian priests). But why was this dangerous, and what were they learning? Secunda points out that bowls with magic incantations were common in this period, and suggests that Jews were learning Zoroastarian texts and using them for magical purposes.