Kreg 613663 Kreg Jig Master System

I umm'd and ahh'd about paying for this full kit. Surely I don' t need that clamp thing - I've got plenty of clamps, and it all looks a bit fancy. Surely the simple two hole jig would do the job, wouldn't it?Yes it would, but boy is this system slick and a real time saver. The work flow in making a bunch of frames out of four pieces of timber is a pleasure.1. Set your jig height for the wood thickness - numbers are on the side of the jig - and finger tighten the knurled brass nut.2. Set the drill depth on the jig and pinch up the allen screw on the drill collar.3. Get a piece of timber and insert it in the jig and set the toggle clamp pressure with the adjustment nutand your ready to zip through the work. There is even a dust port accessory for your shop vac to take all the drilling waste - and again I recommend that you use this as you can end up with a lot of mess if you are drilling a lot of holes.So, which kit do you go for? The concept is good - there is no question of that, but if you are unsure whether all the other bits are needed - YES THEY ARE. You will regret not buying this total kit if you don't dive in at the deep end. You will use and continue to use the kit because it is easy - so you will get your money's worth out of it. How many jigs and specialist tools have you bought that lie at the back of the drawer because, although they work, they are fiddly to set up and a pain to work with? Don't make that mistake here. The simple two hole jig on its own is not cheap, so dig deep and get the kit - you will thank me.

Ummed and Ahhed over this for quite a while.First off there's the joints versus joining thing to get around.So I reconciled that with the realisation that when working with MDF chipboard and PSE softwoods I'm probably not the fine cabinetmaker using secret half mitred dovetails I think I am.Then there was this K4MS kit versus the newer K5.Which to get?The K5 has the built in storage for drill bits and support for wider boards and is Newer.But the K5 kit also has the clamp lever on the jig pointing directly groinwards and what looks like a not so intuitive method for gauging collar setting / bit depth.So, finally, I got this K4MS instead which is great.It's marked up as metric and pre configured with locking registers on the jig for setting the thickness of your material which then determines the depth for the drill. You set the depth of the stop on the drill bit by sitting the bit in a groove on a jig, approximating the end of the cutting portion of the bit against depth marks.These two settings then allow you to drill a clearance and a pilot hole in your material in one operation that will give you a very strong compression joint with the correct length of screw.Don't let me put you off, describing using the Kreg is much more complex than actually using it.Helpfully, Kreg include a DVD of videos on how to do common builds with the device. Which shows how easy it is.One difference in translation between the US / UK market is that the closest approximation for 18 mm material common here would be the 19 mm mark on the jig.I slightly under drill to compensate, especially in man made boards which are less tolerant of the Kreg screws, which really achieve a lot of compression in the joint.You get a sample selection of screws with the kit so you can see exactly how strong joints made with the pocket hole system are.Impressive, even without glue.Especially in substantial material.Tried it on some oak boards. Really solid.Kreg recommend different threads for different materials; fine thread for hard woods, coarse threads for chipboard and soft woods.You also get a face clamp with this kit, which has a double use as both clamp to hold the jig to your bench when drilling the pilot and clearance holes as well as holding material as it is joined.The lag screw method adopted by Kreg works best when both pieces to be joined are held closely together when the screw[s] are inserted. The clamp works well for shallow frames.There's also a portable single hole jig for running repairs on drawers and such, plus a full size portable block for taking the full jig to the workpiece and working in situ.You also get a spacer / support stop along with an extraction vacuum connection to keep the jig clear of dust as you use it if connected to a shop vac.You get one drill bit and adjustable collar with an allen key.Two square head driver bits one long one short, and along with the sample screws a few wooden hole plugs in case the holes are visible.The system is so well designed and thought through that you may find yourself adding other Kreg components.The jig is well made of good stuff.Slight worry about the quality of the driver bits, the square head needs to hold up over time.Overall I'm happy with the Kreg K4MS.

This is so easy and quick to use that it makes drilling a joy. Making cabinets or boxes is now so simple. The port for dust collection is a great idea as is the on board storage. On the underside of the jig you can store the drill bit with collar attached and also one of the screwdriver bits. At the front of the jig there is a small hole for storing the Allen key. If you are anything like me you'll know how much of a time-saver this can be. No more hunting for bits.There are a variety of pocket hole jigs out there and previously I laughed at people paying so much when surely the others done the same thing. I eat my words. I had a mid range one I paid about £40 for but the pair of holes where never quite the same and I spent so much time attaching the device to the wood then removing it and getting the next bit of wood.The Kreg is so superior. Also because you drill vertically as opposed to horizontally like a lot of others it is so much easier. The fact that the jig is secured and you move the timber only is a massive time-saver. It also seems way more accurate than others I've used but perhaps that's just me.I would highly recommend this product.

A touch expensive but overall very good. Quick and easy to set up, good solid joints, would recommend

Makes wood working a lot easier and stronger! I would recommend people to go to the kreg website and see the videos they have of how easy this system is to use. I would also recommend buying some extra screws when ordering this as it doesn't have that many included.I bought these Pocket-Hole Screw Kit, SK03, Includes 675 pieces of the 5 most popular self-tapping screws in a durable carry case. 25.4mm (1") fine thread pan head x 150, 25.4mm (1") coarse thread pan head x 150, 31.8mm (1-1/4") fine thread Maxi-LocTM x 150, 31.8mm (1... and I bought an extra box of one inch screws because i was making some shelves with 16mm chipboard, it came out VERY strong with these pocket holes!Also would like to add that Amazon shipped the wrong item instead of this Jig set. I received the order on Wednesday, and was starting my project on Saturday, I called them on Thursday and explained my problem, they shipped it out on overnight delivery to make sure I had it for Saturday!! 6 stars for service Amazon!!