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Veckle's USB-IF certified USB 3.1 Gen2 Full-Featured Cable is compliant, but is missing identifying logos
Benson again with a USB Type-C to USB Type-C cable review. Today I am reviewing Veckle's "USB-IF Certified 3.3ft Full Featured USB C to USB C 3.1 Gen 2"This cable is a USB 3.1 Gen2 Full-Featured Type-C cable, meaning that it not only supports charging capabilities and basic USB 2.0 data, it also supports USB 3.1 Gen 2 SuperSpeed for much faster data transfer with supported devices (10gbps), and also allows for the extra wires to be repurposed for Alternate Modes such as VESA DisplayPort. This cable should have 10 more wires than a standard USB 2.0 Type-C to Type-C cable to support the extra functionality.In addition, Veckle claims this cable supports 100W operation, so I will check to see if it supports 5A.*Advanced Cable Tester Results*I am using Total Phase's Advanced Cable Tester, which does USB testing in four critical areas:* e-marker verification - checks that the integrated identifier chip in the cable has appropriate values* continuity - checks that every pin on the cable is connected where it's supposed to, not connected to where it's not* DC Resistance - checks to see if this cable is within spec for IR Drop (Section 4.4.1 of the Type-C spec) for charging performance* Signal integrity - checks the USB 2.0 and 3.1 data lines can perform at 480mbps and 5/10 gpbs respectively.Here is the vital info summary from Veckle's cable from the Advanced Cable Tester on default settings from the "SS Gen 2 - 5A with SI" Test Profile:Emarker fields -* Product ID: 0x0401* XID: 0x12A1* Vendor ID: 0x2D17* Current Rating: 5A* Speed: USB 3.1 Gen 1 and Gen 2Continuity - All Pass for USB 3.1 cable. This cable has the extra 10 wires for a full-featured cable.DC Resistance @ 5A -Vbus : 71.33mΩ -> 356mVGnd : 30.81mΩ -> 154mVThese are comfortably within the limits of 500mV for Vbus and 250mV for Gnd. This cable will not cause excessively slow charging, even when used with 100W power supplies.Signal Integrity - This cable passes 10ghz and 5ghz "eye" diagram tests on the SuperSpeed pins, and 518mhz on the USB 2.0 high speed pins, using the ACT's default settings for USB 3.1 Gen 2.*USB-IF Certification*Veckle has listed a USB-IF test ID on their product listing (Test ID: 5,230,000,200) and advertises the cable is USB-IF certified compliant, so let's cross reference this with USB's official list available on usb dot org.This test ID matches with a "USB 3.1 Type‐C to Type‐C Cable Gen 2(10Gbps)" model number VTC00401 from "TECHVIWIN INTERNATIONAL(HONGKONG) LIMITED." The official USB pdf also lists that cable's XID, which is 0004769. Converting to hexadecimal, this is 0x12A1, which matches the value I read from the cable's e-marker using the Advanced Cable Tester, therefore I have high confidence this is the same cable that USB-IF certified.*Functional Tests*My test setup today include a Lenovo Chromebook 13 ( 2017 Lenovo Thinkpad 13" 1366x768 Chromebook, Integrated Intel HD Graphics 510, Celeron 3855U Dual-core 1.6GHz, 4GB RAM, 16GB eMMC, 802.11ac, Bluetooth, USB-C, HD Webcam, Chrome OS ) and a Chromium OS USB-PD Sniffer (codename Twinkie). Please check it out by searching google for "Chromium USB-PD Sniffer". This product is also available on Amazon here: Plugable USB 3.1 Type-C (USB-C) Power Delivery Sniffer Since this cable claims capable of 5A operation, I have to use a different laptop to do a functional test of high current capability. In this test, I am using Apple's MacBook Pro 15" with TouchBar Late 2016 ( Apple MacBook Pro MLH32LL/A 15.4-inch Laptop with Touch Bar (2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, 256GB Retina Display), Space Gray ), and its included 87W charger. Using twinkie as an interposer on the MacBook side:> tw vbusVBUS = 19822 mV ; -4130 mAThe MacBook Pro is taking advantage of the higher than 3A capability of the cable, drawing 4.13A here, for 81W of power.For a USB 3.1 SuperSpeed data test, I've hooked up my Chromebook to a SuperSpeed Type-C external drive enclosure : ORICO Aluminum Tool Free Type C USB 3.0 to SATA III External Hard Drive Enclosure for 2.5 inch HDD/SSD [ Optimized For SSD, Support UASP ] Silver (2598C3) I confirmed when attached to my Lenovo Chromeboo kvia the Veckle cable that it enumerates at SuperSpeed, and works for large file transfer.Finally, I have tested this cable and my Chromebook on a Type-C monitor capable of DP alternate mode: LG Electronics 4K UHD 27UD88-W 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor . Using this cable, I am able to charge the Chromebook at 45W, while displaying 4K 60hz video, and accessing the monitor's USB hub.For other more subjective judgements of this cable : Veckle's cable is sturdy and tough, although a little bit thick and stiff. The connectors on both ends are deep-draw extruded Type-C plugs, which put them on par with higher end cables from Apple and Google.*Missing Logos*If the Veckle cable has a flaw, it is that it lacks any standard USB logos on the cable itself. This cable is an otherwise excellent full-featured Gen 2 cable that is also capable of 5A operation, which checks all possible functional boxes, however Veckle has decided to only adorn the overmolds on either end of the cable with the Veckle logo and no standard USB logos. As a result, this cable is at risk of being forgotten about and be completely anonymous. Veckle went to the trouble of fully certifying this cable with USB-IF, which gives them the privilege of using USB's SuperSpeed 10 Trident logo, which would clearly identify the data speed capability of the cable at least. Because of the lack of a visible logo, I am subtracting 1 star from my review score.In conclusion, Veckle's USB 3.1 Gen2 Full-Featured Type-C cable is an excellent USB-IF certified cable that shows the promise of Type-C use cases to come. Using this single cable, I was able to fast charge my laptop while simultaneously displaying 4k60 video to and accessing a USB hub on an external display. It should work great for up to 10gbps SuperSpeed+ applications and for up to 100W charging. However, because it doesn't use any USB logos, it is almost completely anonymous and may be lost in a cabinet years later without an easy visual indicator of what kind of cable it is.
J**N
USB C cable, if using on Switch, make sure it's on a specific side of
When charging my Nintendo Switch, I noticed it does what the cable that comes with the C force 003 does and charges it only when it's on one specific side but that could be due to the fact that like the other cable, this cable also is for use for USB C to USB C TV mode if your device supports USB C to TV mode like a Samsung Dex.Great cable for using my anker with PD, the cord that comes with Anker battery isn't as good, isn't great, it's cheap but this one is strong, durable, works with any USB C device that hooks up to TV and charges quickly aswell, even with a crappy USB C battery that doesn't have power delivery like the Imuto 30000 MAH, which gives alot of juice to Switch if your not playing at the same time but this cord makes it so that it charges the switch slowly while playing it, Ankers USB C cord did not, switch drained while battery drained, when playing.You get what you pay for and this is worth it.
M**X
Perfect replacement for Apple's charging cable
I had a hard time looking for a cable able to deliver the 86w that the latest MacBook 15' needs because I wanted a better cable than the one that Apple provides as it looks it will break in any moment, and I found this which is strong and delivers the necessary power. Besides unlike Apple's which it's only for charging, I can use this cable for data transfer too, making it a way better option for any MBP user.The only downside is the length. 3feet is way too short, but I solved that part with an USB3.1 male-female extender. If this cable was 6 feet it would be perfect.
P**Y
TLDR of detailed test review - GREAT TB3 / USB 3.1 Gen 2 CABLE!
Great technical review is the most popular review, but it's kinda long-ish. Bottom line for me is that this is the ONLY BLACK braided TB3/USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable I've found - and it works perfectly and fits aesthetically flawlessly within my setup. THANKS Veckle! How 'bout more colors / shorter lengths?
J**.
Supports Samsung "Super Fast Charge" on S20 series
Like the title says, it does "super fast charging" which is what I was looking for. Seems comparable to Anker in build quality.
C**T
Great Value and Durability
This works great for me - have had it a few months now and it's super durable. Definitely recommend.
G**Y
Works great
It works as long as you realize that gen 2 has a max cable length of 1 meter. This cant be extended at all. I don't know who is getting away with selling cables that are longer than this and claiming they are gen 2. This is a well made cable but I do think they should say something about max cable length on all gen 2 adds.
R**N
This cored no longer works now
I have only had this cord for about 3 months now. I can no longer charge with it. I connect it from power of my PC USB-C to my phone that is USB-C. No longer charges. No connection at all. I use the same USB-C output from PC for charging the PC and that works like it should. Port is working as expected. The cord no longer doing anything.
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